Fwd: 24 new messages in 9 topics - digest

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Today's topics:

* 65nm chips out soon, 45nm chips in 2009 - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/6850239ef0d5d6c4?hl=en
* PGR4 gimped because of DVD - 8 messages, 3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/869dfda5c5715709?hl=en
* Mods are coming to UT3 on the 360 - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/3519389cd651a583?hl=en
* Heavenly Sword was once a MS exclusive? - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/a3a7ae3f4fd58b7b?hl=en
* xflop 3-shitty slipping to distant 3rd, only shipped 1 million in 2007 - 4
messages, 4 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/73a68a03946c71d8?hl=en
* Grudgingly picked up a Wii - 2 messages, 2 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/d01c66797d63a5f7?hl=en
* Best Buy to no longer stock XBox 360 Core - 1 messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/85f6a2d52e1b076f?hl=en
* Come up with your most outrageous Blig inspired subject header. - 3 messages,
3 authors
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/3de9c73ea4be382e?hl=en
* will blacks get upset when they see the Resident Evil 5 video game? - 2
messages, 1 author
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/0c60bef45dc8fff8?hl=en

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TOPIC: 65nm chips out soon, 45nm chips in 2009
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/6850239ef0d5d6c4?hl=en
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== 1 of 1 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 1 2007 2:45 pm
From: "boodybandit"



"Jonah Falcon" <jonahnynla@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:1185996363.887559.79180@19g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...

duped as usual






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TOPIC: PGR4 gimped because of DVD
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.games.video.xbox/browse_thread/thread/869dfda5c5715709?hl=en
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== 1 of 8 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 1 2007 2:51 pm
From: Bill Cable


On Aug 1, 5:14 pm, Jonah Falcon <jonahny...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> So, PGR 4 was not nor ever has been limited by DVD's storage capacity,
> it was never an issue and PGR fans will be treated to transitioning
> day/night textures as proof. Case closed.

Gotta hate it when a credible website gets its facts wrong.

--
Bill Cable - Steelers Fan & Star Wars Collector
http://CreatureCantina.com <----- funny!
cable@creaturecantina.com





== 2 of 8 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 1 2007 4:39 pm
From: "Brenden D. Chase"




"Bill Cable" <billcable@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1185941662.580536.143420@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com ...
> "Bizarre Creations, the developer of PGR4, recently announced on its
> forums that players would not see different times of day in each
> racing location, not because it was a problem for the development
> team, but because it was a problem to fit the texture data on a single
> DVD."
>
> http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=27217
>
> Such a pity the 360 doesn't have an HD-capable drive. I suppose you
> could swap disks after every race to get different times of day. "I
> want to play at night." "Now I want to play during the day!"
>
> But that's right... everybody said 9GB would be big enough for every
> game for the next 10 years! Games 1 year out like... I don't know...
> LAIR won't need 25 Gigs. Only terrible developers who don't know how
> to compress and optimize would ever need more than 9 Gigs! All that
> extra space is just uncompressed audio! You can't fill 9 Gigs with
> texture data!


While i'm glad that i did purchase a PS3, i do think this will be the
exception and much less the rule..... for about another year. Once
developers figure out how to push the envelope with the PS3, and realize
they need more space than 360 can offer it'll be just a matter of time
before those 'exclusives' come sailing back home.






== 3 of 8 ==
Date: Wed, Aug 1 2007 4:46 pm
From: "Brenden D. Chase"




"Jordan" <mailto:lundj@earthlink.net> wrote in message
>news:1185945018.371586.236300@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com...
>On Jul 31, 9:14 pm, Bill Cable <billca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Such a pity the 360 doesn't have an HD-capable drive. I suppose you
>> could swap disks after every race to get different times of day. "I
>> want to play at night." "Now I want to play during the day!"
>
>It's because, for whatever reason, Bizarre is baking the lighting data
>into the textures instead of doing dynamic lighting. I'm sure they are
>doing it to maintain the frame-rate or something, but it's a self
>generated problem not a disc limitation.


So you're saying you'd rather have choppy framerates? Maybe Bizarre is
finding limitations, with resources and disc capacity, in the 360
already!?!?! <GASP!>

When ever the devs say they cant do something people are always quick to say
that they are just lazy. I'm glad that you came out and said that it was to
'maintain the frame-rate'. I'm proud of you.